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written by reader Tom Gardner: Motley Fool: Rising Star Portfolio

By lamorgan101, August 24, 2017

anybody out there have any feedback on the recent Rising Star portfolio offering from Tom Gardner at Motley Fool. almost 4k non refundable. really slick ad campaign, almost to slick IMHO.

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Dwarf Cinquefoil
Dwarf Cinquefoil
4 years ago

I almost pulled the trigger on this one. The MF research and methodology makes sense, and I have $20K in dry powder that I want to put into microcaps. However, I missed the tiny window to buy in at $3999, which I viewed as a 20% front-end load for a five-year minimum hold. I actually called Tuesday evening, but their phones were already off. When the price went up to $4999, it became a 25% load. That’s too much distance for me to break even. If I had $100K to put in play today then this would be very attractive to me.

Grammar Nazi
4 years ago

too slick, not TO slick.

Bochica
Bochica
4 years ago

To Dwarf Cinequfoil:

(and no, I’m not going to use this moment to point out your typos…who has time to be editor for the INTERNET Grammar Nazi?)

As a Motley Fool participant and fence-sitting “50-50 believer” in their services, consider following:
1) This is binary, it’s either going to work or it’s not, and if it does, the 20-25% “front-end load” will be irrelevant. I’ve bought only 3 stocks over ~5 years as a direct result of MF that I wouldn’t have known of or bought otherwise. And those stocks made enough money to pay for their subscription services for 50+ years — so no hard feelings here.
2) But, the reason #1 above worked out is because I consider them as stock “ideas” to investigate on your own, because just narrowing the list with small cap stocks is of great value, assuming you trust the source. Just don’t let someone ever replace your own due diligence, and be leery of buying a stock simply because they put it on a list. The list will surely change over the years (I’d worry if it doesn’t, some won’t exist in 5 yrs.).
3) Next, consider looking at them also as investing themes or sub-sectors they believe will do well, so you can then investigate other stocks in that area on your own as well (e.g., online marketing, merchant banking, AI, robotic surgery, etc.) based on the “rising tides” theory of sub-sector investing.
4) Part of the value may be to help you decide when to buy and sell. One of the keys to these types of stocks is getting in and out, either to sit on the sidelines briefly, or get out for good. Even the good stocks in this area will be volatile, and history shows even the 10-30x stocks come down after the frenzy — don’t look at these as “buy and hold” stocks.
5) You may not want to do this if you’re planning on being a passive participant that follows their every directive — and there is NO WAY one should follow two specific requisites as inferred from their questionnaire: a) BUY ALL 40 STOCKS. That’s way too many, even though I know their rationale by heart, or b) HOLD ALL 40 STOCKS FOR AT LEAST 5 YEARS, “no matter what,” or “even with drops of 40%+ in value.” NO WAY. They won’t have to live with the consequences, you will, and they’ll have invested your $4-5K a long time ago…in something other than what’s being recommended (the amount they’re committing to invest in this is a rounding error in this business).
5) Lastly, while I appreciate what guys like MotFool, Jim Cramer and others offer to the public, you have to resist the constant up-selling at some point, particularly with MF. WHERE WILL IT END? There’s now 8 and counting: a) Rule Breakers, b) Income Investors, c) Hidden Gems, d) Inside Value, e) Million Dollar Universe, f) Options, g) Stock Advisor, and now…h) Rising Stars. REMEMBER, the stated concept of Rising Stars WAS ALSO THE INTENT OF HIDDEN GEMS. That’s not to say you shouldn’t do this, it’s just another consideration.

I understand what they’re doing, and I understand your dilemma, so I just offer those thoughts from another customer — I hope you make a fortune, seriously, and remember this won’t make or break your success, good luck!

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Patrick Carroll
Patrick Carroll
4 years ago

$4000 for a sight unseen service with no track record and no refund. That’s a tough sell.

saint stephen
4 years ago

I’ll give the guy one thing. He has balls to ask for $4K. Most of these bums just want two. Two or four? Bad advice, usually, either way.

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sicilia
4 years ago

Wish I’d saved my money. So far I am not impressed.

Dwarf Cinquefoil
Dwarf Cinquefoil
4 years ago
Reply to  sicilia

This week the Motley Fools were selling another idea for $4,000…. a list of stocks to profit off the Bitcoin and Blockchain rush. $4,000 seems to be the Motley Fool price point for advice.

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saint stephen
4 years ago

When I subscribed to MF I lost money on every one of the stocks I got on their advice. Stay away, I say.

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criderlj
criderlj
4 years ago